Nexus of fate - Pandorina kutija ili ne?

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Nexus of fate - Pandorina kutija ili ne?

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Poslednjih nekoliko dana se ucestalo srecem sa Turbo Fog dekom, pa osim cinjenice da sam tiltovan samim postojanjem istog i njegovim uticajem na standard format, ne mogu da pomognem pa da pomislim o buducnosti MTG-a, kao igre i efekta koji Nexus of fate i slicne karte mogu da imaju na igru.
S obzirom da kartu nije moguce dobiti u boosteru, vec je ekskluzivna buy-a-box promo karta, logicna implikacija je ta da ce karti samo da raste cena u buducnosti, gde ce je biti sve manje zbog potraznje.

Za one koji nisu upoznati, mehanika deka se svodi na rampovanje, card draw i odugovlacenje partije do trenutka kada imas 10ak mane na raspolaganju, Teferija i/ili Karna i Nisu na talonu i izbacujes kartu koja ti daje extra krug nakon sledeceg i opet, i opet, i opet... You get the point... hamster


Vase misljenje? Da li mislite da je ovo izolovani incident, gde je mocna i nedovoljno istestirana karta izasla na to mesto ili nesto sto moze da postane praksa u buducnosti?
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Through Strength I gain Power.
Through Power I gain Victory.
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Medzik je oduvek bio pun broken combo-a.
Pogledaj samo koliko puta je Time Vault errata-ovan.
U ovom slucaju je razlika samo u power levelu i cinjenici da taj kombo sada ne mozes da izvedes u prvom potezu.
Ja ne pratim standard, ali siguran sam da kao i kod drugih formata vazi pravilo "poznavanje meta gejma je kljuc uspeha" (Isa trade mark). Verovatno u standardu postoji dek koji moze lako(lakse) da se izobri sa tim Turbo Fogom ako to zelis. Mozda gresim, ali moje misljenje je da je dobro ubacivati taj tip karata u standard koje omogucavaju mocan kombo uz odredjenu zrtvu (povecanje cmc-a...itd), inace bi medzik postao lineran i lako "resiv".
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Veći problem tu je što je Nexus, kao što si rekao, nestandardna karta i to je ono što meni smeta. To što postoji kvazi kombo dek (u stvari neka vrsta kontrole) koja eventualno napravi lock i pobedi, nije ništa zabrinjavajuće. Na standardu je bilo ozbiljnih kombo dekova i to je jedan od tipova koje igrači vole. Bilo bi loše da se sve svede na agro vs agro, koliko god bilo frustrirajuće igrati protiv kontrol/kombo dekova. Wotc godinama ubija strategije koje su nekada bile uobičajene (land destruction, kontrola, kombo), tj. neke su već potpuno ubili. Ja volim raznovrsnost i slobodu da možeš izabrati bilo šta. Svakako su debili što su napravili standard kartu koja se ne može naći u busterima.
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@ Frenki: Buraz, nemam problem sa efektom karte kao takvom, vec sto kartu ne mozes da nadjes u boosterima.

Zamisli kartu koja je modern staple, tipa Ljiljana, koja je samo buy-a-box promo, a igra je svaki modern dek koji ima 1manab .

@Turbo: Plasim se da ne postane praksa za buducnost, da power level ovih promo karti bude vise neko playable. To bi postao veliki problem. bs
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Ovo je klasicna glupost u njihovom stilu, koja sigurno nece postati praksa za buducnost, jer WoTC nema nista od toga.

Potcenili su power level karte, misleci da je 'bezbedno' jer kosta 7 mane.
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Da, čist previd - nisu skontali da ce time walk za 7 mane da se igra i bude presudna karta i okosnica tier1 decka.
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